Altrincham Goal

Textbook cross and header.

Great moment.

have you got a clip of the trip of Chris Allen in the box. It looked a clear foul to me.

I'd like to see that again as well. Amused to see their forum moaning about the ref. I thought overall though he was poor, they got the rub of the green from him.
I didn't like the fact that nearly every time on of our guys beat one of theirs, there was a tug back. Booking every time but it took until the second half for the ref to start spotting it.
Only dubious one of them was that offside , I wasn't in line but their centre forward looked onside to me. Big jase's saved it anyway but still.

Of all the teams we have played in this season's cup and trophy runs, Altrincham made the least favourable impression on me, whether it be their one dimensional team, whinging manager or supporters who didn't seem to want to share the occasion with us. Remember the Thurrock, Rovers, Glos and Wealdstone fans who took the time to come on here before and after the games. Of course Alty fans are bitterly disappointed with their team's abject performance yesterday, but so were we after Thurrock. I don't remember the sour grapes on here, just an acceptance that we were beaten by a better team on the day and wishing them well in the next round.

BenE wrote:have you got a clip of the trip of Chris Allen in the box. It looked a clear foul to me.

Yep, I thought it was in real time, watching it back in slo mo, Chris nutmegs the defender whose right foot sweeps at the ball but misses it completely, wiping Chris out at the same time. One of those that might look like a dive even though it clearly wasn't. Linesman was better placed to see it but chose not to get involved.

I thought it was a dive or, at least, minimal contact at the time. I am not sure that that video clears up how much contact there was but it still looks a bit cheap to me and I don't really blame the lino or ref for not giving it.

If we had lost, however....

Defender's reaction suggests he was just waiting for the penalty to be given.

Justice done in the end.

I've got a pic of it. Was stood near the dugout, they were livid.

Marc Monitor wrote:I thought it was a dive or, at least, minimal contact at the time. I am not sure that that video clears up how much contact there was but it still looks a bit cheap to me and I don't really blame the lino or ref for not giving it.

If we had lost, however....

If you watch the slo mo a couple of times, Chris is running at pace and changing direction, the defenders right foot comes across and up catching Chris' left foot which is about to become his standing foot, it is a clear trip to me, if he thought Chris dived, he should book him for simulation.

I thought that it looked like a penalty at the time , and there is nothing in the video clip that has changed my mind.

As Yuffie pointed out, the defender's reaction says it all.

Still, it was the right result in the end.

comrade powell wrote:Of all the teams we have played in this season's cup and trophy runs, Altrincham made the least favourable impression on me, whether it be their one dimensional team, whinging manager  or supporters who didn't seem to want to share the occasion with us. Remember the Thurrock, Rovers, Glos and Wealdstone fans who took the time to come on here before and after the games. Of course Alty fans are bitterly disappointed with their team's abject performance yesterday, but so were we after Thurrock. I don't remember the sour grapes on here, just an acceptance that we were beaten by a better team on the day and wishing them well in the next round.

Have you been over and registered on the altrincham forum to share the occasion with them? Most of the comments on there are complimentary or mention only their own teams performance and nothing either way about City, so I can't see how that is sour grapes? It's also a football match, not a tea dance so maybe they don't want to talk to other supporters. I thought they travelled in decent numbers, behaved themselves and showed grace in defeat, best to enjoy the win rather than look for something that isn't there.

That's a fair point you make with your initial question, Dave, although I think it's perfectly possible to maintain tribal loyalties AND mix with opponents. Maybe that's one of the many difference in the levels that our teams play at. However, I would argue the point about your forum and sour grapes!  And yes, it was a good turn out yesterday by Alty fans - I wasn't suggesting otherwise - and they gave your team good support. Anyway, thanks for registering on here and good luck for the rest of the season.

I think Dave is a Bath City supporter.

I have to say that I though their team played pretty well.

I thought it was a penalty at the time, and I think the video proves it. Chris pushed the ball past the defender who stopped him getting it - clear penalty in my opinion. The assistant was well placed to see it but didn't flag - I will let him off though, because he didn't flag for an Altrincham penalty in the first half when they appealed for handball.

Marc Monitor wrote:I think Dave is a Bath City supporter.

I have to say that I though their team played pretty well.

yes, on re-reading his post, you're right!

Disagree with your 2nd comment though...

It looks pretty clear to me - penalty - which the linesman should have had a good view of. In fact so should the ref who was much closer than I was.

In Alan Hansen's parlance - Stonewall.

I'll upload the pics I took of the incident later. I personally thought he was caught, if the officials felt differently he should have been booked for diving. I'm sure I overheard the linesman claiming that the defender got a touch of the ball. Hmm.

I still feel sorry for the officials at times. The amount of stick they get from the dugouts is ridiculous, it wouldn't be allowed to happen in other sports so why is it acceptable in football?

Good point Mark, refs have a hard job to do - we have slow motion to look at it over and over again but we still can't decide! They a split second to make a decision.

Agree 100%. It was Andy Gray who started this forensic analysis of officials' decisions, having watched numerous slow mo replays. Now they're all at it in the studios. I haven't much time for Savage, but at least he was pointing out in the Brighton match yesterday how ridiculous these penalty appeals for handball were becoming when the ball is blasted at a defender.

LB wrote:I thought it was a penalty at the time, and I think the video proves it. Chris pushed the ball past the defender who stopped him getting it - clear penalty in my opinion. The assistant was well placed to see it but didn't flag - I will let him off though, because he didn't flag for an Altrincham penalty in the first half when they appealed for handball.

There was no handball. It hit a City defender on the shoulder. Lino 10 yards away indicated shoulder straight away. I had a good view and, it was Gallinagh I think, had deliberately dropped his shoulder to deflect an attempted cross.
Unless we're talking of another incident.

comrade powell wrote:

Marc Monitor wrote:I think Dave is a Bath City supporter.

I have to say that I though their team played pretty well.

yes, on re-reading his post, you're right!

Disagree with your 2nd comment though...

Well, let me qualify it. As I mention on the other thread, they defended well and, unlike Rovers and Wealdstone, didn't underestimate us and, at least, showed up but appeared to want to get us back to their place for a replay.

Definite penalty

Alty fans were great.

I met an old mate I used to work with in Lindon. An Alty fan who had drive down from York.