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Post by Steve Hill on Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:09 pm

Local derby this season then  their Happy it was two leagues down last time  now they are trying to kick there new owner out .

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Post by Corstonian on Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:37 am

One more eviction from the Premier and Dorchester might get a reprieve, giving us another much-needed local fixture.

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Post by yuffie on Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:45 am

Completely baffling decision.

And still Salisbury appear to be blaming everybody except themselves.

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Post by marquess of weston on Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:11 pm

Official Football Conference line. Salisbury City will be in Conference South if certain conditions are met by 5PM July 4th. If they don't they face further penalties and Tonbridge Angels will be reprieved. As it stands Dartford back in Conference Premier and Lowestoft now officially moved North.

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Post by marquess of weston on Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:34 pm

Conference now say if Salisbury don't meet conditions then league will run with 21 teams. So now no chance of a reprieve for Tonbridge Angels

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Post by striped67 on Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:25 am

marquess of weston wrote:Conference now say if Salisbury don't meet conditions then league will run with 21 teams. So now no chance of a reprieve for Tonbridge Angels

Not sure how that would work out, wouldn't it cause problems for whatever league Salisbury end up in?
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Post by comrade powell on Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:37 am

Perhaps there won't be a league for them to end up in. But I'm sure the gullible there will welcome the latest money lender who wants to be associated with them and all problems will be papered over for the next few months. To be fair, Farnboro got through the season, but presumably that was down to the Conference's welcome get tough policy with these outfits. We certainly don't want a repeat of the Truro fiasco...
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Post by A36 on Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:31 pm

I do wonder if that is what the Conference have in mind. If they expel Salisbury from the Conference now (well, last week) ahead of the Southern League AGM, then they probably end up in the Southern League, as they did in 2010, and would, once again, spend money they haven't got to get back up to the Conference in two or three seasons (taking promotion places away from other, solvent, clubs). However, by waiting until July to actually expel them from the Conference, they would then find themselves without a step three league to play in, and may, ultimately, then start much further down the pyramid, either in 2014 or even in 2015.

Of course, on the other hand, by starting the season with 21 clubs, there is a danger that the Conference would be in a position to repeatedly ignore deadlines until Salisbury eventually bully the Conference into letting them play in Conference South next season, in much the same way that Farnborough were eventually allowed to play in Conference South last season.

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Post by BenE on Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:12 pm

Yes agree that is a likely senario.
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Post by comrade powell on Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:11 am

A36 wrote:  However, by waiting until July to actually expel them from the Conference, they would then find themselves without a step three league to play in, and may, ultimately, then start much further down the pyramid, either in 2014 or even in 2015.

as they say, that wouldn't be the Conference's problem...
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Post by Beau Nash on Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:01 pm

What a shambles of a management the Conference appear to be.  

How can they allow a standard of football at Conference South level to run with only 21 clubs...ridiculous.
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Post by comrade powell on Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:04 pm

so what alternative would you suggest?
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Post by BenE on Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:37 pm

Beau Nash wrote:What a shambles of a management the Conference appear to be.  

How can they allow a standard of football at Conference South level to run with only 21 clubs...ridiculous.
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Paul Williams and the board would be happier with less teams. He was actually a bit miffed that they extended next season by a week.
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Post by Midsomer-steve on Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:48 pm

With an odd number of teams in the division, the only dafty bit about this, to me, is that there would be one team without a Saturday fixture each weekend - not ideal?
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Post by Beau Nash on Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:35 am

One upside would be the ease in fixture congestion on our way to the FA Trophy final.  Razz
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Post by kermit on Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:11 am

Beau Nash wrote:One upside would be the ease in fixture congestion on our way to the FA Trophy final.  Razz
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Post by LB on Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:10 pm

Don't really understand why Salisbury didn't get the same treatment as Hereford. That would have sorted the situation out now, rather than leaving it until two days before the fixtures come out - typical of the Conference management to set a deadline and not stick to it. This does suggest that they will be allowed to continue in Conference South.

If Salisbury do drop out it could have implications for us from a fixture point of view, as potentially we could have a home game against them at Christmas/New Year/Easter as they would be our other 'local derby' team.

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Post by the demon headmaster on Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:06 am

No way. It will be WSM as always. If we play Salisbury who would the mudmen play. I suspect Salisbury would be lined up with Farnborough.

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Post by county exile on Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:07 pm

Seems increasingly likely they won't be playing in any league next season:-




Posted 1/7/2014
STATEMENT Salisbury City

During the last five days I have been trying to negotiate the return of Salisbury City football Club from Mr Outail Touzar the club’s 96 percent majority shareholder.

The negotiations, which are documented were conducted through Touzar’s Dubai mobile via the social network site WhatsApp. As you can imagine these negotiations were tiresome and prolonged and extremely painful at times dealing with a man who appears to live on an entirely different planet to the rest of us.

Following Mark Winter’s decision to reluctantly stand down the only option left open to us was to convince Touzar to stand down and sign over the shares he paid a £1 for and to date has seen him fail to invest a single penny in the club but withdraw £3,950 without explanation.

The deeper we dug into Touzar the more we uncovered a trail of lies, deceit and deception. Needless to say it was imperative to keep him on side to safeguard the future of a club facing an uncertain future under his brief tenure.

On Friday if we fail to lodge a £50,000 bond and pay football creditors around £27,000 the Conference will throw Salisbury City out of the League. That will inevitably be followed by a winding up order from the HMRC if we fail to pay an outstanding tax bill for £29,000.

In opening negotiations with Touzar I had managed to secure funding to secure the future of the club from three key investors who were prepared to pay off the immediate debts and allow us to rebuild the club following the loss of the manager and key players.

Unfortunately Touzar, whose motives seem to perplex many people, had other ideas. Even though he couldn’t raise a single penny, had failed to lift a finger since he took over. He still seemed to think he was sat on a very valuable asset despite the club facing an imminent demise.

He tried to gauge the wealth of the three investors and demand proof of funding presumably so he could come up with ludicrous demands to relinquish his hold on the club.

Yet even I couldn’t have envisaged what he was going to propose until he put his demands in writing this morning. Touzar wanted £100,000 for 60 percent of the club, to remain as chairman for at least 6 months and 35 percent of any commercial deals he bought into the club. He also wanted 35 percent of any deal that would see the club relocate from their current ground, and wanted Mark Winter, Michaela Menzel and Rae Hughes banned from any involvement in the club.

Even more bizarrely given that the lawyers of Prince Khalid had threatened to sue Touzar because he had drawn up a playing contract while the club were under a transfer embargo and accused him of harassing the family for money, he demanded that the player could only sign for Salisbury City if he personally authorised it.

Perhaps this will now confirm what many of us know and, others believe to be true, that this man is only driven by personal greed and has no interest in the well-being of the football club. Touzar would have you believe that his intentions were only honourable and the lies and deception are down to others. I will leave you to draw your own conclusions to that.

When I replied to Touzar with understandable outrage he accused me of breaching a trust by discussing his offer and claimed it was merely a test. Furthermore this morning he sent out a series of emails to players and staff pleading with them to defer payments they were due while at no point has he made a single sacrifice monetary or other.

He even complained that a £20,000 cheque from a passionate disabled fan hand been stopped preventing him from spending someone else’s money.

Sadly it seems this is going to reach an inevitable conclusion and the likelihood is Salisbury City will fold. While the passionate fans will understandably be distraught at the prospect, I dare say its owner, Touzar, won’t lose a wink of sleep. We can only assume his only regret is that he couldn’t manage to fleece the club of more money than the £3,950 he managed to get his hands on.

When it is more appropriate, we intend to be far more transparent about Touzar’s dealings with Salisbury City. But barring a minor miracle it’s fair to say his brief tenure at the club has been to oversee its complete annihilation.

Paul Smith (Salisbury City advisor)
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Post by comrade powell on Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:33 pm

a very sad state of affairs. hopefully the conference will quickly put an end to this nonsense and the many decent, hard working supporters of the club can work towards a phoenix set up forming from this mess. and hopefully this is a lesson for all those gullible people at other clubs who look for a quick fix, but i very much doubt it....
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Post by 2weirdtown on Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:52 am

It's at times like this that all City supporters should offer praise and thanks for the perhaps conservative yet steady way the club's directors run Bath City.
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Post by Corstonian on Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:58 pm

2weirdtown wrote:It's at times like this that all City supporters should offer praise and thanks for the perhaps conservative yet steady way the club's directors run Bath City.

Amen to that. It's often the case that it takes a disaster to hit another club to remind people that our directors are doing their thankless job pretty reasonably in the circumstances.

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Post by county exile on Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:07 pm



Conference Decision on Salisbury City FC

Salisbury City Statement

Salisbury City have been expelled from the Conference South after the Conference board performed a massive u-turn after earlier giving us assurances that if our football debts were paid we would be able to continue in the league.

Last night, following a four hour meeting, Jackie Goddard, Mark Winter, Jeremy Harwood, David Phillips, Amanda Newbury and Graham Mundy agreed to pay in excess of £91,000 to immediately safeguard the clubs future. As we all suspected Medy Outail Touzar had no intention of paying a single penny and was prepared to see the club crash and burn.

Lengthy negotiations had taken place with the Conference today with the ownership issue now heading for the High Court. The money was transferred to the clubs client account awaiting instruction to be transferred into the Conference account as per agreement with the conference.

Prior to that and before 3pm today, the Conference board had sought assurances about the running of the club and also sought indemnity over the transfer of the funds because technically the debts were being paid by a third party. All the assurances the Conference wanted were met and the club expected to carry on the Conference South, recruit a manager and players to compete this season. Even more than that we offered to indemnify the conference against any legal action taken by Touzar against them, if they went ahead with what at the time where their intentions. That was to allow us to operate through this period until the ownership is resolved one way or the other.

But what the Conference did next staggered belief. They went back on their word, said they were throwing the club out, subject to an appeal, and if we were able to get the ownership sorted out we can still enter the league and form a squad. They were told that the legal action route we were taking would in all likelihood take 28 days minimum, because of standard notice periods. It didn’t it seems make any difference.

The conference then told us at just after 3pm, not to send the monies that were ready to go to meet their conditions, because once received they would be non-refundable. The money was immediately frozen and we have now contacted IPS Law in Manchester to take the strongest possible legal action against the Conference.

The conference change of heart today, potentially could rob the supporters of the club, that they hold dear, but also, their change of heart also prevents the players that are still owed money, the staff that have been working for over two months without being paid, being potentially robbed of any chance they have of getting paid what is rightly due to them.

Naturally emotions will be running very high and there will be a great deal of anger being directed at the Conference and the absent owner Touzar who showed his true colours in the 11th hour. He did nothing!

But rest assured Salisbury City will not go down without a monumental fight.
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Post by Luton Roman on Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:51 pm

Again everyone to blame but Salisbury. About time they took a very long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

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Post by county exile on Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:33 pm

It's not as if it's the first time.
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